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Discussion Topic: No More Hiding the Truth, the GOP & Tea Partyers are Racist |
1 BWPStaff |
04-02-2010 @ 10:44 PM |
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The bottom line is that for 8 years Bush fought an unjust war, took the country from a surplus to debt, lied to the people, etc., etc., and the Democrats and the Independents of the country waited for their chance to vote the liars out of the office. One fact is true: the Republicans destroyed the United States standing in the world. Another fact is also true: American Citizens voted in the best person for the job of the presidency. Beck, Hannity, Limbaugh, Coulter, and Palin all know it. However, the GOP have been busy for the last 2 years trying blame the new team for their miserable failures. The GOP has a good friend, however, the media, the media that allows racist rants to double as a political platform. It doesn't matter if it is MSNBC, Fox, or CNN yakking the points of view, the bottom line is that the media is doing the ratings and really could care less about the wrongness of the GOP and their partners: the Tea Party. But I digress. The latest episode of sickness (the GOP and Tea Party's reaction to a Black man winning the presidency) is a sick minded Doctor from Mt. Dora, Florida who is stating that he is willing to turn away any clients that may have voted for President Barack Obama. [What an an idiot Sure, our doctors can heal the sick Taliban in the field, but if you voted for Obama, I don't like you.] This quack doctor is named Dr. Jack Cassell. This Cassell dude is a Urologist who previously served as chief of surgery at Florida Hospital Waterman in Tavares, said a patient's politics would not affect his care for them, although he said he would prefer not to treat people who support the president. Amazing. It is amazing that these racist are willing to overlook everything Bush, Rove, Cheney, Rice, etc. did to our country in order to attack a Black man that is smart and doing a great job. Folks, it is now time to call the GOP and Tea Partyers the RACIST they really are. They do not have hoods on anymore, but their behavior, written words, and public rants speak volumes. If the media won't tell Americans who these racist are, then the media of the people, the Internet will have to do their job. (Buzz)
Yes, we're starting somethin'
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2 dawilliams |
04-03-2010 @ 2:31 AM |
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BWPStaff No more hiding the truth? The truth has been evdident from the start! Anybody who does not recognize where the teabaggers are coming from is in denial!
a luta continua
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3 nappyred |
04-03-2010 @ 10:39 AM |
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No more hiding the truth? The truth has been evdident from the start!
Yes! They've been "hiding the truth" right out in the open all along.
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Anybody who does not recognize where the teabaggers are coming from is in denial!
Again, Yes! I like the way the blog below put it a few weeks ago. The Tea Party Is All About Race
'in all thy getting...get an understanding'
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4 MasofCCI |
04-03-2010 @ 10:35 PM |
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IMHO, the news outlets job has been distract and cover and the TP's & GOPs job to promote the cover.
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5 MasofCCI |
04-03-2010 @ 11:46 PM |
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On the surface. TPs & GOPs say their freedom is being interferred with, its their right to not be mandated, unless of course its someone else's life then its time for intervention (Congressional). Simply put, its their right to not be interferred with but its their right to interfer in others lives as they see it.
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6 BWPStaff |
04-04-2010 @ 9:47 AM |
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Yes dawilliams, you are correct. But outlets like ours have been very negligent in covering the race aspects of the debate; in fact, the BWP has done very little as of yet to fight fire with fire as some would put it. The facts are apparent: Bush had a surplus. Bush accumulated 1.3 Trillion a year in debt before Obama took office. The media really never covers this. Additionally, every lie blurted by no-name people from Birthers, Communist Conspirators, Manchurian Candidate nuts, etc. were take seriously by the media. In the times of Bush, I doubt that those people would have seen the light of day. But a Black man was elected to the presidency of the USA and the white hoods are off but the media has taken their place. Racist and their overseers (Alan Keyes and others) are hating that their master race positioning has ended ... and this is only the beginning of the story. Yes, we're starting somethin'
This message was edited by BWPStaff on 4-4-10 @ 9:53 AM
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7 askWHY |
04-04-2010 @ 1:33 PM |
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BWPStaff I need your help because I can't seem to locate any video footage of any one calling our Congressional Black Caucus members, "NIGGER". I have spent almost 72 hours poring over the internet looking but can't find it. How ever I did come across at least 19 different postings of video from various sources and individuals with cellphones from every angle possible. Even from the young sista that was right up front where everything was going down. I counted nearly 28 people with their cell phones out recording the Congressional Black Caucus members walking through the crowed. I even saw one of their assistant walking behind them using his own iPhone to capture the moment. I heard a lot of yelling and people screaming "KILL THE BILL", particularly a white guy in a white ball cap with his hand cupped around his mouth shouting at our U.S. Rep. John Lewis. Now through my many years living on this planet I have been in face to face normal conversations and been on the receiving end of a little "SPITTLE". I sure everyone had delivered a little bit of spit while routing for their favorite team and face to face talks with friends. You know, when that drop of spit lands on our lip and you try to play it off. But I just couldn't see or find any footage of any "NIGGER" yelling or " SPITTING a LOOGIE" at or on our U.S. Rep. John Lewis. Why hasn't their own assistant that was walking with them recording the moment presented his video? PLEASE... PLEASE.... BWF Staff. Could you please post the video proof of the name calling and spitting. I mean, unless the MEDIA MONSTER and BELOVED GREAT GOVERNMENT (including) our own black wealthy "LEADERS" are trying to create a "DISTRACTION" so we the people don't notice their "PORKY" dick going in our ass. Why didn’t they take the natural route through the tunnels between the House office buildings and the Capitol? TRUTH needs no EXPLANATION
This message was edited by BWPStaff on 4-4-10 @ 7:50 PM
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8 sylvia |
04-06-2010 @ 6:01 AM |
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It's a shame.John Lewis still has to show his bravery and put up with the same shit he put up with almost 40 years ago.I don't know why it took so long for some of us to see what was going on with the Tea Partyers.Did you read Rush Limbaugh's racist comments.Our hospitals are almost like the hospitals of Nazi Germany, already.And Sarah Palin will probably be the leader of the Tea partyers too.That's just what KKK jr gets,a woman who's too dumb to be governer of Alaska And sure can't be president of the U.S.Talk about a race war in South Africa.What's getting ready to happen over here?
This message was edited by sylvia on 4-6-10 @ 6:12 AM
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9 nappyred |
04-08-2010 @ 9:11 AM |
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The "spittle incident actually involved Emanuel Cleaver not John Lewis. As I reviewed the video, it did appear to me that the man was spit upon but everyone should judge for themselves. Spit or No Spit, You be the Judge Askwhy, I'm not sure I'm following your argument. Are you implying, as Randi Rhodes so often says, that "if it's not on the TV it didn't happen? I'm no fan of the mass media, but you imply that this is a story that they (the media) might have just made up for the purpose of distraction when the report was based on what Lewis and Cleaver actually said themselves. I'm sure it's possible these gentlemen may have been been lying or exaggerating, but I see no reason for it and I'm willing to give them both the benefit of the doubt. THEY HAVE EARNED IT! jmho
'in all thy getting...get an understanding'
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10 RoyRogers |
04-08-2010 @ 7:19 PM |
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I really don't understand askWHY's line of questioning? It is pretty obvious that the Tea Party folks are deeply scarred by of the election of President Barack Obama. The burden or proof in this case would be for you to prove that the Tea Partyers, in general are not racist. The Tea Partyers are so confused that they say that Obama is a Racist, a Communist, a Fascist, a Socialist, and a Bunny Wabbit (I put in the last one) rolled into one African American male. If it wasn't so dense and so misguided I would laugh. But their is a willingness to be dumb that is infecting these folks. They are so shocked by the skills of our current president, and are so accustomed to saying that Black folks are unqualified that this last bastion of racist motivation is not gone. Yes, Obama is qualified and so they have to demonize the man. Education is a tool. Use it.
This message was edited by RoyRogers on 4-8-10 @ 7:28 PM
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11 askWHY |
04-09-2010 @ 3:05 AM |
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Please don't get me wrong when I question what's being said on the wonderful forum. I could care less for Democrats, Tea Party or Republicans. None of these criminal organization are helping the "WELFARE" of the of the world. I question everything and everyone on every topic when dealing with race issues, politics, education, economics and philosophy. I care about the down trodden, impoverished, ill, elderly, special needs, hungry and homeless brothers and sisters, being black, white, yellow or brown. I have 13 uncles and 3 aunt that were sharecroppers picking cotton in southern Texas. My father was the youngest of them all and left Texas and moved to California. My father hung out with Bunchy Cater and the rest of them down here in Laos Angeles and was part of the movement. All my life I have worked in Food Banks, Homeless Shelters, Rehab Centers, Community Day Care Centers, At Risk Teen counseling, Home Restorations, Elderly Medical Transportation and After School Tutoring Outreach. With all that being said. I don't care if the President was Christ and if all the Black Congressmen where the Apostles. These men must have forgotten what is was like to be starving, broke, crippled and crazy. It have had over 30 years and they haven't reached back and bring us up. So what we have a black president, that don't mean shit if he or she never know hunger pains and couldn't sleep at night or go to school or had to stuff news paper in their shoes to keep their feet warm. Some of our so-called leaders have forgotten. So when I say they need to stop crying about So-called name calling and sissy shit like that, it because they are rich and don't have to worry about nothing other then staying in office and staying rich. I didn't vote for Obama or McCain.. I voted McKinney. I knew she was a people champ, just like Chisholm in 72's ( Can't Be Bought ) neither one of them. Well my father voted for Chisholm, I was too young. So forgive for not defending these so-called brothers (Congressmen and President). We always hear people talk about what need to be done or someone should do this or that. I say they should shut the hell up and be about. If you are not part of the solution, then you are part of the problem. And they had 30 years of jaw jacking and they will continue doing nothing.
TRUTH needs no EXPLANNATION
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12 mem-ra |
04-09-2010 @ 4:44 AM |
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Please don't get me wrong when I question what's being said on the wonderful forum. I could care less for Democrats, Tea Party or Republicans. None of these criminal organization are helping the "WELFARE" of the of the world. I question everything and everyone on every topic when dealing with race issues, politics, education, economics and philosophy. I care about the down trodden, impoverished, ill, elderly, special needs, hungry and homeless brothers and sisters, being black, white, yellow or brown. I have 13 uncles and 3 aunt that were sharecroppers picking cotton in southern Texas. My father was the youngest of them all and left Texas and moved to California. My father hung out with Bunchy Cater and the rest of them down here in Laos Angeles and was part of the movement. All my life I have worked in Food Banks, Homeless Shelters, Rehab Centers, Community Day Care Centers, At Risk Teen counseling, Home Restorations, Elderly Medical Transportation and After School Tutoring Outreach.
It seems that the people who are truly active in the community seem to have similar mindsets. askwhy, I applaud all of your past experience and encourage more of this type of admirable work from our peer group. This is also why I mentioned polarization in another thread.
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13 grassroot |
04-09-2010 @ 6:39 AM |
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mem-ra, SL8 & dr who Yes, the same spots.
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14 mem-ra |
04-09-2010 @ 6:45 AM |
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GRASSROOTS OUT OF CURIOSITY....WHAT IS THE POINT YOU ARE TRYING TO MAKE?
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15 RoyRogers |
04-09-2010 @ 6:53 AM |
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grassroot, I see what you see. When discussions are held certain people like mem-ra detect a bit of truth going on and try to tie anything positive against a respondee. I base what I see on this quote:
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It seems that the people who are truly active in the community seem to have similar mindsets. askwhy, I applaud all of your past experience and encourage more of this type of admirable work from our peer group. This is also why I mentioned polarization in another thread.
Why would someone say such a thing? If you're going to talk about something talk about it. Is it polarization to say that the tea party folks are saying bizarre things toward the president? No. Why so? Well, that is what they are saying. It is the truth. We've heard a GOP congressman say 'You Lie' on the subject of Health Reform and Illegal immigrants. We've heard Palin allude to Obama being a socialist. We have REALLY REALLY heard what one side is saying. There is no polarization here. That is a key word. Education is a tool. Use it.
This message was edited by RoyRogers on 4-9-10 @ 6:58 AM
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16 mem-ra |
04-09-2010 @ 7:54 AM |
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Roy Rogers...do you know what polarization is? If you do, can you please clearly illustrate the point you are making? If you think that you determine what is broadcasted to the masses, I dont think it will make sense for me to further dialogue with you...and thus a response is not expected or necessary.
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17 mem-ra |
04-09-2010 @ 7:57 AM |
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watch "green zone" generally the people who are on the front lines, and in the middle of the shyt storm, feel differently about the policy than the policy enforcers, and or the opposition to the policy enforcers...generally they want to help the PEOPLE and understand the POLITICS of left and right...occupying force and opposition...and tend not to get caught up in the "politics" This is probably why, the people who are directly involved in helping their communities, seem to be of like mindsets... the same can be said about those who do nothing but complain and excuse.
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18 nappyred |
04-09-2010 @ 9:35 AM |
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AskWhy, Thanks for your thoughtful response. Your dedication to the downtrodden is truely admirable if not, however, unique. Many of us have been there - done that, as the saying goes and share a genuine and vested interest in the general welfare of OUR people, OUR country and OUR world. I understand and agree with the need to question sources and motives, but I guess I was trying to figure out if you were questioning the word of the congressmen, questioning the media or question the OP for even mentioning the incident. It was probably not your intent, but your post read as if you thought there might be some conspiracy to discredit the tea partiers. Now I realize that can't be as they have done quite an excellent job of that on thier own. It's not a matter of being a red or blue. The truth is just that and it stands on it's own merits. mem-ra, Polarization is a political strategy (presently) employed by those representing the current power structure. Roy's point is that WE are not a part of that power structure so WE should be united in at least an understanding of what we are up against. In this case, we are talking about a group that claims they want to "take back Amerika back". They use code words and "dog whisle" phrases to hide their true purpose and the true nature of their anger. Perhaps, in the larger scheme, WE should be polarized. That is to say, united on the side of the argument that favors US most. BTW, Grassroot was referring to the old saying that "a leopard doesn't change his spots". Don't know if they use that one north of the border.
'in all thy getting...get an understanding'
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19 mem-ra |
04-09-2010 @ 11:22 AM |
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nappyred. In the future you may want to let people speak for themselves.because while i see your logic...i do not see Roy rogers. If we are not part of the power structure..why does he applaud barack obama? there is a serious disconnect there. I agree with you, inasmuch, that we are not part of the overt power structure. but the power structure NEEDS OUR CREDENCE...and thats why token negroes are used to validate the preposterous claims that are made AGAINST US. If we dont "buy it" who can it be sold to? the mere "take america back" phrase being lent credence by an individual such as yourself is part of the problem. Now dont get me wrong, I doubt it your intention to strip yourself of power, i appreciate the majority of your posts. Obama is NOT the first black president. Black people were here in america before any european was. America is part of an ancient black empire, but one would have to be a freemason to know this. This is actually the esoteric meaning behind the story of hiram abiff. the only ones who can legitimately take america back is us my brother. Additionally I can not say that the majority of us are concerned with OUR future as a collective. Unfortunately, the proof is all around me. If we were concerned...we wouldnt accept all the bullshyt thats thrown at us.... But we do. If we didnt get emotional when someone says "hey nigger" and instead got proactive and progressive, things would be different. What someone else calls you is arbitrary...the important thing is what you respond to! and thus non issues like this one are blown out of proportion and tangents spun to keep us distracted. "Polarization is a political strategy (presently) employed by those representing the current power structure." it is not limited to that, but yes my brother thats how it applies here. Now seriously, can you not see whats going on with the 3 parties now? None of them have our progress in mind...so why do we have their progress in mind? its like a black guy mixing himself up in a squabble between a neo-nazi, a white supremist, and a skin head.... not logical , futile, and regressive.
This message was edited by mem-ra on 4-9-10 @ 11:37 AM
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20 RoyRogers |
04-09-2010 @ 3:11 PM |
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mem-ra, please, do not ask silly questions like do you know blah, blah, blah , it is so Fox like. Plus, telling nappyred what he should do is a little bossy don't you think? If nappyred wants to contribute, let them. And yes, Barack Obama IS the first Black president. Period. I don't think you are qualified to rewrite history. My initial comment to you was: quote:
I really don't understand askWHY's line of questioning? It is pretty obvious that the Tea Party folks are deeply scarred by of the election of President Barack Obama.
I was saying that based on what the GOP and Tea Party folks were and have been saying in public and in private (remember Chuck Grassley's comments on Killing Grandma) that the statement of the GOP and Tea Partyers being racist were fairly simply issues to prove.
Education is a tool. Use it.
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21 tawhid |
04-10-2010 @ 2:52 PM |
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What kind of people comprise "tea partiers" and "GOPs" versus "Democrats", particularly caucasian "Democrats" and congressional and senatorial "Democrats"? What are the differences in the populations of these groups? President Obama has dropped more drones in the middle east than George Bush did. He has sent more troops into Afghanistan than Bush did? What's the "republican" and "democratic" distinctions here? New Orleans is STILL "under water", President Obama assigned Bush and Clinton to "oversee" the "rebuilding" of a Haiti that both contributed to the repression of. "Stimulus" came no where near Black folk - joblessness is about to take Black communities out-- I'm just asking, who really are the "RACISTS"? If racism is not simply prejudice - if racism is not simply verbal assault - if racism is those things backed by ACTION, backed by tangibly effecting the life of a "race" of people- who REALLY are the racists?
ain't no right way to do wrong
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