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Discussion Topic: Buzz: Is Israel a Rogue Nation? |
1 BWPStaff |
06-06-2010 @ 8:01 PM |
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This blogger is not an expert on the Middle East, but from the outset on could easily infer that the United Nations did the wrong thing back in 1947 by placing the state of Israel in a location entirely populated by Arabs? Just examining the population table shows you the disparity in numbers - ( see table in Buzz Zone)
In addition, Israel has nuclear submarines and land based nuclear weapons they could use to kill the 90% of the population in the area. Regular US citizens should begin to ask, why the preference for Israel? Why are they allowed to terrorize people in the region? Why were they allowed to destroy the Gaza strip and then not allow the Palestinians to rebuild?
And what about the pre-dawn attack on the humanitarian aid flotilla by Israeli soldiers that took the lives of nine activists?
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"The attack on a humanitarian mission ... will only further alienate the international community and isolate Israel while granting added legitimacy to Hamas' claim to represent the plight of the Palestinian people," said Scott Atran, an analyst at the University of Michigan. Read:
Analysis: High-seas raid deepens Israeli isolation
It is not Antisemitism to ask why Israel is allowed to be so evil. In addition, it is the right of Americans to re-examine the issue of Israel to re-evaluate our commitment to their sovereignty. Remember, it was the persecution of those that worshipped the Jewish religion (Jews) in Europe back in World War II. These Jews migrated to their current territory (Middle East) and killed the Palestinian inhabitants with technological assistance from both the USA and the United Kingdom.
It would appear that the Palestinians are getting the punishment from the Israelis that should have been dished out to Germany in 1946.
Until Israel stops killing the Palestinians and taking away their land the majority of the people in the USA will consider Israel a criminal state. However, the leaders of the USA will do no such thing even in the presence of such great evil. American citizens must study the Israel/America relationship to discover why America jumps through such hoops to protect Israel in the face of such evil aggression. High-seas raid deepens Israeli isolation
Yes, we're starting somethin'
This message was edited by BWPStaff on 6-6-10 @ 8:11 PM
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| 2heartbone |
06-07-2010 @ 3:19 AM |
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Topic Title: Buzz: Is Israel a Rouge Nation
1) You forgot the question mark although this would be something that one might ask a middle school class. But hey I'm not insulted cause I sorta know your your level of intellect, and your heart is shifting to the right place.
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"It would appear that the Palestinians are getting the punishment from the Israelis that should have been dished out to Germany in 1946."
2) Obviously your education is typical of most Americans, it sucks.
A) The top Nazis moved over to America after WW2. Research NASA history.
B) The Allied Generals were just as evil as theirs were.
Please quit looking at the world through Zionist colored media glasses, and use the net while it is still available to make some progress.
The BWP is a great place to start your research.
Of course when you promote Lena Horne and other trivia over progress it makes our enemies feel really good about you.
Try replacing your emphasis away from highlighting some cracker
GOP Boss Jim Greer - How Ya Like Me Now!
And point the people towards something more informative like the Don't Tread On Me - Rise of the Republic thread?
Be a force for positive change by educating the people to the real history that shapes today, not a nostalgic look back, but real suppressed knowledge.
C) Look up Judea declares war against Germany, and thank GD for the world wide web and those who share the truth with us seekers.
D) BTW, the same group responsible for all the centuries long atrocities against the Africans/Native Americans/Palestinians/Germans is the same group that controls and profits from the oppressive Federal Reserve System.
The same group that forces us to unconstitutionally use their fiat to steal our wealth.
I'd like to think of them as our common enemy.
If you do not know who they are by now...
go and look up the owners of the Federal Reserve, that privately owned agency that has us all by the balls through their muscle goons, the Internal Revenue Service.
Interestingly the IRS is not technically a part of US Treasury although the "agents" are misled into thinking that.
Israel can not be your only focus.
They are a willing tool of the same evil.
3) BWPStaff, the word is rogue not rouge.
“the enemy of my enemy is my friend”
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| 3dawilliams |
06-07-2010 @ 5:27 AM |
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heartbone
Set em straight HB! When it comes to Israel and the Jews here at BWP Heartbone is on the case!
a luta continua
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| 4mem-ra |
06-07-2010 @ 6:27 AM |
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dadumbo
when have hb and i disgareed about isreals policy or money...
but you call my posts gibberish cause im from cabada..
do you see the low level of intellect displayed by this genius.
his intellect is sub-bwpstaff.
thank you for putting a few things into perspective for agentstaff
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| 5BWPStaff |
06-07-2010 @ 8:17 AM |
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heartbone, we run a web site, people bring the input. We did make it a beginning thread since we want folks to start from the very beginning. Yes, simple works and it is the best way to begin any conversation.
Yes, we're starting somethin'
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| 6BWPStaff |
06-07-2010 @ 8:19 AM |
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oh, and look for LOTS more trivia pertaining to Greer, Horne, Lil Kim, Elvis Presley, Marmaduke, Lil Willy on the corner, etc. We are going to make it a board for anyone that wants to participate.
Remember, keep down the curse words, don't use derogatory language to describe people, and have some fun gaining or giving some knowledge.
BWPStaff
Yes, we're starting somethin'
This message was edited by BWPStaff on 6-7-10 @ 9:44 AM
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| 7dawilliams |
06-07-2010 @ 11:23 AM |
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BWP
Its your site in the final analysis but its gets old having to deal with nut cases who dont know what the fiuck they are talking about or are just plain crazy. I try to be civil but you gotta deal with some of these fools on their own terms.
a luta continua
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| 8BWPStaff |
06-07-2010 @ 11:45 AM |
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Try mellowing out a little bit. Take some time to understand that YOU are able to deep dive into some board subject matter and others can't due to time constraints or because it is not the focus of their interest.
Chill man. Everything should not be a battle for you. Go to Ameristar or Harrahs in St. Charles and play some slots or tables ... but chill. Go to 'The In Spot' in the loop and take in some Spoken Word ... but chill.
As far as my misspelling, I appreciate the catch and I commend you for your good eye ... both of them.
Yes, we're starting somethin'
This message was edited by BWPStaff on 6-7-10 @ 12:38 PM
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| 9mem-ra |
06-07-2010 @ 4:54 PM |
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is someone crying to the teacher?
i see where your son gets it from...
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| 10grassroot |
06-07-2010 @ 6:54 PM |
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Chill man
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| 11BWPStaff |
06-08-2010 @ 7:19 AM |
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like we said mem-ra, chill baby chill.
Yes, we're starting somethin'
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| 12grassroot |
06-08-2010 @ 10:15 AM |
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"There is no peace for the wicked."
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| 13mem-ra |
06-08-2010 @ 3:15 PM |
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chill and turn the other cheek?...
okay
that works...
smh
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| 14grassroot |
06-08-2010 @ 3:19 PM |
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Since you have been bending over backward for some folks, I wonder what cheek you are talking about.
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| 15mulberry |
06-08-2010 @ 6:35 PM |
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Regular US citizens should begin to ask, why the preference for Israel? Why are they allowed to terrorize people in the region? Why were they allowed to destroy the Gaza strip and then not allow the Palestinians to rebuild?
The reason why this has been allowed to continue is because of the dumbing down of the people here in the US. They trying to destroy the true Jews just like they did in Germany and Poland to assume the identities in order to keep extracting sympathy money. Come on, I know you are not that naive and pretending to be ignorant on the subject. As long as we have been running topics on this board about these parasites you are now starting to create topics.
But since you have the gall to start it lets see more of topic on the front page. Let's talk about these murderers who not only have been murdering Palestinians, but Asians, African, Americans, Mexicans etc. Their carnage does not start or end there.
The media outlets are owned by the Zionist and the reason being is they want to continue to perpetuate the lie that they were the victims of the Holocaust. Has anyone asked them since it was so devastating why have they not had a formal inquiry into the matter? The reason being is because you will find out they have been lying through their filthy teeth.
Then you have to ask, if Israel is such a Holy Land then why are the inhabitants so damn criminal? Why do they have weapons? Why are they killing?
The lies they continue to tell like, "Iran wants to wipe Israel off the face of the earth", "The Arabs hate us", "They want too....blah, blah,blah". These inbred idiots continue to spew hatred and propaganda in order to continue their carnage. But every rabid animal has its day.
Live Free or Die Trying
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| 16grassroot |
06-08-2010 @ 7:48 PM |
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Let's see what will happen this time around. I had a feeling that Iran was going to try to get into the act.
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Two Iranian Ships to Sail to Gaza
June 8, 2010
Iran’s Red Crescent Society is preparing to send two aid boats to Gaza this week to challenge the Israeli embargo. The announcement came a day after a senior Iranian official offered Revolutionary Guardsas escorts for vessels challenging the blockade — a move that would be seen in Israel as a provocation. Nine people were killed in an Israeli commando raid on a Turkish aid flotilla last week.
“One ship will carry donations made by the people and the other will carry relief workers. The ships will be sent to Gaza by end of this week,” said Abdolrauf Adibzadeh, the head of the Red Crescent in Iran, adding that a third boat could follow at a later date.
The first two vessels will head to Gaza in co-ordination with the Turkish Government, one of them carrying “70 aid workers such as nurses and medics and the other will have foodstuffs and medicines”, Mr Adibzadeh said. He called for volunteers to join the convoy. The third boat would have an operating theatre on board.
Israel, which has kept a tight control on any goods or people entering Gaza since the Islamist Hamas movement took power in 2007, has vowed not to allow aid boats through. Its interception of the six-vessel flotilla last week ended in a bloodbath, international condemnation and calls for an independent inquiry.
In response to a no-confidence motion tabled by opposition parties the Israeli Defence Minister, Ehud Barak, said that his Government would investigate the incident and consider alternative ways to enforce the blockade.
The raid has ruptured Israel’s strategic alliance with Turkey, its sole friend in the Muslim world. Turkey has said that ties will not return to normal until an international inquiry is held, a move that Israel is resisting.
The Turkish Prime Minister, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, yesterday described the raid as a violation of international law. “If there is hatred, it is Israel’s hatred. If there is terror, it is Israel’s state terrorism,” he said after meeting President al-Assad of Syria.
Israel is worried that Turkey, with whom it has enjoyed close military ties in the past, is moving away from the West and closer to the Muslim world. A joint Turkish-Iranian attempt to break the blockade would add to such fears.
The last time that the Iranian Red Crescent sent an aid boat with food and medicine to Gaza it was intercepted by the Israeli navy without casualties in December 2008. Tensions have soared since the killings on the Mavi Marmara ferry last Monday and Israel has accused an Islamic Turkish charity of sneaking mercenaries on to the vessel.
Israeli forces killed four more people off the coast of Gaza yesterday, accusing them of being Palestinian frogmen trying to break out of the heavily guarded coastal enclave to attack Israel.
Abu al-Walid, a survivor of the attack, said that seven unarmed members of al-Aqsa Martyrs’ Brigades, a militant offshoot of Fatah, had been doing “swimming training”. when Israeli helicopters and naval forces opened fire.Israel’s military said that it had attacked “a squad of terrorists wearing diving suits on their way to execute a terror attack”.
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L Smith wrote:
With this Iranian adventure co-ordinated with the Hamas supporting Turkish government. With Turkey cozying up to Syria, with its air force and navy units moved across to Cyprus, closer to Israel, and with Iranian subs reported to be based in Syria, with Ahmadinejad, in Turkey today, announcing that one of the Iranian Red Crescent ships will be carrying Revolutionary Guards to teach Israel a lesson and saying (and he always seems to find a new way of putting it) that this dispute between Turkey and Israel marks the final countdown for Israel's existence, is there anyone other than those turkeys who vote for Christmas who still believes in Turkey's peaceful intentions?
June 8, 2010
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| 17tawhid |
06-08-2010 @ 8:20 PM |
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The Unites Nations Security Council has once more
demonstrated its irrelevance - and incompetence.
This week, Israel massacres a few boat loads of humanitarian aid
volunteers on their way to deliver medicines, food, and building
materials, in an act of blatant piracy and terrorism in
international waters.
In inimitable style, the UN Security Council calls for Israel to
investigate itself, and report back about what they did.
No criminal investigation, such as Kosovo received for its war
crimes, not even an independent inquiry, but a Washington-
backed whitewash by the perpetrators of the most heinous
crime imaginable – an attack on unarmed humanitarian
volunteers conducting an aid mission.
This is not good enough. The people of the world deserve
international organs that conduct themselves in accordance with
the most basic internationally-accepted precepts of justice –
procedural fairness.
The three principles of procedural fairness are the bias rule, the
evidence rule, and the hearing rule. The bias rule “requires a
decision-maker to be disinterested or unbiased in the matter to
be decided. A person adjudicating on a dispute must have no
pecuniary or proprietary interest in the outcome of the
proceedings and must not reasonably be suspected, or show a
real likelihood, of bias.”
It is thus clearly impossible for the victims of this massacre to
receive any semblance of justice from any inquiry conducted by
the State of Israel, both the perpetrator of the crime, and a party
with significant interest in the matter to be decided, and the
outcome.
We would not accept the police throwing a criminal investigation
over to a murder accused to conduct – no more should we
accept this outrageous abdication of responsibility by the UN.
If the Security Council is serious about its call for a “prompt,
impartial, credible and transparent investigation conforming to
international standards” then it must observe those standards,
and put the inquiry into the hands of an unbiased entity.
Nothing less will suffice.
Otherwise, this incident becomes just one more example of the
absolute ineffectiveness and irrelevance of the United Nations
Security Council in today’s world, but especially in relation to
Israel and Palestine.(1)
(1)Israel has completely ignored every Security Council
Resolution since their 1967 invasion of Palestinian territories.
UN Security Council Resolutions 242 and 338 demanded their
withdrawal. They ignored them. Nothing happened.
Receiving the tacit green light, Israel went on to invade Egypt's
Sinai Peninsula and Syria's Golan Heights and set up settlements
in both. Israel also invaded Lebanon in 1978 and 1982 and
maintained a long-term occupation in the southern part of the
country.
Although Israel later withdrew from Egyptian and Lebanese
territory (for a while) they have continued to occupy Palestinian
and Golan lands.
The Security Council did nothing. 43 years later it has still done
nothing.
Israel then implements a murderous blockade, preventing
medicines and food from reaching the millions of Palestinians
trapped within the siege, destroying their housing and
infrastructure and leaving them homeless, cutting them off from
the outside world - in short, causing immense human suffering
not unlike that suffered by millions in Nazi Germany, including
Jews.
Various UN spokespeople weakly call for an end to the siege of
Gaza, but there are no resolutions – by now presumably even
they accept how ineffectual they are.
Julie Webb-Pullman is a New Zealander writer specializing in
Latin American issues.
ain't no right way to do wrong
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