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1BWPStaff 06-03-2010 @ 7:49 AM Reply to this Discussion   Edit This Message   Delete This Message.
Who is BWPStaff  The way it sounds in the media, it would appear that President Obama is an oil man! Headlines such as ‘Obama heads to Gulf; govt defends spill operation’ and ‘Political patience wanes as Gulf oil spill grows’ garnish major newspapers saying as much. From what this humble blogger remembers is that President George W. Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney were oil men and that every move they made was for the benefit of Oil companies and their base.

Even some staunch democratic supporters of Obama, such as James Carville, lashed out at the President for not ratcheting up the recovery effort in the Gulf of Mexico fast enough! Carville’s commentary was a hoot, but he did it with feeling! Carville’s facts, however, were incorrect; the Obama administration was on the ground immediately when it was known on April 22nd that the explosion that occurred on April 20th on the Deepwater Horizon oil platform was in fact gushing 5,000 barrels of oil and hour!

On Chris Mathews Hardball news program on MSNBC, June 2, 2010, Chris tried to push his guests, Senator Bill Nelson (D) Florida, and Bernard Charbonnet, former New Orleans Port Authority Chair into saying Obama was to blame for the spill – it didn’t work. The native Louisianan, Charbonnet and Sen. Bill Nelson told the truth: BP is to blame.


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2dawilliams 06-03-2010 @ 9:37 AM Reply to this Discussion   Edit This Message   Delete This Message.
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No Obama is no oil man but what is exposed once again is the apparent choke hold that corporate America has on the govenment. There was a lawyer on C-SPAN this morning who worked on the Exxon Valdez oil spill which occurred in 1989. He only settled up the case in 2008 and the people who were actually hurt got very little money. He predicts the same thing will happen with BP. The people who are actually going to be hurt will get very little compensation. BP like Exxon is answerable to the Federal Government and not the average Americia citizen.

This lawyer says that the Supreme Court in 2008 stepped in and cut the damages that Exxon was supposed to pay the people who were hurt. The oil companies have billions of dollars to fight any case in court for years. In the meantime people die, go broke, file for divorce, families disintegrate, depression, etc. etc. Punitive damages have been in the law sense the code of Hamarabi. But the U.S. Supreme Court led by John Roberts and Clarence 'Uncle' Thomas threw the punitive damages out. Thus making it impossible for the common people of Alaska to be made whole again. These people were mostly fishermen,oil workers, and native peoples. The lawyers died went broke and had to file bankruptcy as well.

What we will see is how impotent the Federal government is against these big corporations. The oil corporations are even more corrupt than the business corporations. They have lobbyist who they pay to influence the congress. The oil business is more dirty and crooked than the average American business. The only business more crooked and dirty than the oil business is pornography.

Get this, Mexico, Cuba and many other south American countries are going to sue the United States because they are going to be harmed by this huge oil spill that will take atleast 20 years to clean up if not longer. The Exxon Valdez oil spill in 1989 is only now been cleaned up. In the meantime thousands of animals have died and some of the land and Ocean is unusable.

This is what the future of the Gulf of Mexico is going to be. I question why so far Obama has refused help from all but a very few countries. Mexico and Norway are about the only two confirmed countries he will accept help from.

The fact of the matter is a safety well should have been put in place when the actual well was drilled. This was not done. According to one source BP thought it was to costly to use this safety precautuon. Now that they have been proven wrong guess who will pay for their mistake. The U.S. taxpayer. They aint got money for the schools but they got money for the oil companies. Oil runs the world. These guys figure they can get their way because of this. So far they have been right.

Obama is not an oil man. He is the President in charge. The commander in chief. Therefore people look to him to come up with a solution. The oil companies are not accountable to the average american only the Federal Government. This means Obama. He has to deal with the corruption that has been built up over the years. The oil companies have a strangle hold on the government. Why are we in Iraq,Afghanistan and trying to pick a fight with Iran? Oil! So the common U.S. citizen is right to want action from Obama. Who else are they going to go too. He is the commander in chief. Some people literally expect him to pull a rabbit out of the hat. This ofcourse is not possible but thats what they expect. Once again as in the Banking and mortgage crisis people are desparate. They are about to loose everything they own and another corpration which has destroyed their lives will get away with it and probably in the end be assisted by the U.S. government.

Just notice how cozy the Coast Guard and the BP officials are. This is not right. What does that tell you? These catastrophes happened on Obamas watch. He inherited these scandals in the making which bore fruition once he got into office. He knew what the job called for when he got elected. So he has to deal with it. Obama has to deal with it.

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3dawilliams 06-03-2010 @ 2:02 PM Reply to this Discussion   Edit This Message   Delete This Message.
Who is dawilliams  BWP Staff

There is talk that the South American countries that are going to be affected by this disaster are going to sue the U.S. Federal Government. The talk is that the U.S. may even try and pull a quid quo pro deal that will allow illegals to stay in this country in exchange for the dissatrous damage this oil accident will cost. Some have even speculated it may be no accident. At any rate it will take billions to repair and years to get the region back in order if there is such a thing. The eco system is going to be destroyed. Thousands of animals will die. Many gulf coast people will loose their livelyhood. Obama cant be blamed for this accident if it was an accident. However he is the man sitting in the White House. Where else are the people supposed to go?

Some of those people who got a settlement from the EXXON VALDEZ oil accident in Alaska got between $8 thousand to 10 thousand dollars. After 20 years!

The Supreme Court led by Roberts and Uncle Thomas saw to this. They need to clean house in the Supreme court. One of many departments that need to be fumigated.

The media has dubbed this latest disaster the Gulf of Mexico oil spill. The price of oil has gone up on Wall street. Uh Oh!

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This message was edited by dawilliams on 6-3-10 @ 2:41 PM

4dawilliams 06-03-2010 @ 2:57 PM Reply to this Discussion   Edit This Message   Delete This Message.
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Bribery and corruption are taking their usual place in American politics. Front and Center. The reps of BP are already trying to con and buy their way out of this hideous mess. One should keep a watch dog unit on every politician they approach to bribe. Any politician caught accepting bribes or political contributions of any kind from BP should resign immediately. You know they will try and be slick about it so you gotta really keep an eye on these characters in Washington.

It is estimated that between 50 to 60 thousand barrels of oil are lost per day because of this accident. This is the equivalent to Exxon Valdez every three or four days. Dayum thats a lot of oil. Who will wind up paying for this? Look in the mirror!
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BP And Halliburton Try To Buy Off Government Officials Investigating Spill

By Alex Seitz-Wald

Facing possible jail time for their roles in the largest oil spill in American history, BP and Halliburton are building high-powered legal teams with “deep Department of Justice and White House ties.” But the companies are pursuing other means to defend themselves as well.

Halliburton’s campaign donations have spiked as it tries to curry favor with key members of Congress investigating the disaster. The company donated $17,000 in May, making it “the busiest donation month for Halliburton’s PAC since September 2008,” Politico reports. Thirteen of the 14 contributions from May went to Republicans, while seven went to members of Congress who are “on committees withoversight of the oil spill and its aftermath”:

About one week before executive Timothy Probert appeared before the House Energy and Commerce’s investigative subcommittee, Halliburton donated $1,500 to Ranking Republican Joe Barton’s reelection effort. It was Halliburton’s second-largest donation of the month — topped only by $2,500 to former Rep. Pat Toomey (R-Pa.), who is running for the Senate.

In the Senate, Idaho Republican Mike Crapo, who serves on the Environment and Public Works Committee, Georgia Republican Johnny Isakson, who serves on the Commerce Committee and North Carolina Republican Richard Burr (N.C.), who serves on the Energy and Natural Resources Committee, all got $1,000. Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) also got $1,000.

Meanwhile, a Hill analysis found that primarily during the Bush administration, BP and other oil companies “paid for dozens of trips and meals for officials” from the Department of Interior, the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), and the Department of Homeland Security — agencies deeply involved in the regulation of oil exploration and spill cleanup. BP had the “highest tab for gifts to government officials” of all oil and gas companies:

BP and its affiliates — BP America and BP Exploration — show up in the gift reports at least 16 different times, paying for meals as well as for oil and gas industry seminars and tours of oil facilities. The cost of the gifts totaled more than $7,200.

Only two industry-funded trips took place during the first nine months of President Obama’s administration. In 2004, BP paid for a group of Interior officials to visit an offshore rig in the Gulf of Mexico. The group included then-deputy secretary J. Steven Griles, wholater went to prison for his role in Jack Abramoff scandal. In 2005, BP paid for travel and meals for then-Interior Secretary Gale Norton and then-Minerals Management Service (MMS) Director Johnnie Burton to attended the dedication ceremony of another offshore rig in the Gulf. BP also paid for officials from the EPA and the Fish and Wildlife Service to visit Prudhoe Bay, Alaska over a period of several years. A recent Interior Inspector General report covering 2005 to 2007 found a “culture of lax oversight and cozy ties to industry.” Since January of 2008, BP lobbyists have spent $30 million to influence legislation, according to the Center for Responsive Politics.

Some coastal governors have benefited from BP as well. BP and other oil companies gave Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour (R) $1.8 million dollars for his campaign, and since the spill, he’s been aggressively downplaying the disaster and encouraging people to visit his state’s oily beaches. Virginia Gov. Bob McDonnell (R) traveled to a BP-funded conference in Houston last month “to lobby aggressively to drill for oil and natural gas without delay.” Meanwhile, Texas Gov. Rick Perry (R) dismissed potential BP negligence by calling the spill an “act of God” at a trade association funded by BP in May.


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This message was edited by dawilliams on 6-3-10 @ 3:12 PM

5Melana60 07-04-2010 @ 2:06 AM Reply to this Discussion   Edit This Message   Delete This Message.
Who is Melana60  You have to ask yourself, why are the oil prices
so high? Think about it, how many gallons/liters
is coming out this one hole per min/hour?
Then ask yourself why should we be paying higher
prices for something coming out of the ground
in your own country.


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